Mission Accomplished!

[Doula Doom]

http://feedthefish.org/blog/materials/blogpix/liberation01.jpg
Iraqis gather to protest US occupation on the second
anniversary of the highly covered removal of the statue
of Saddam from the center of Baghdad.

K USA, time to leave Iraq alone now.

[playboy]

the shia are just pissed they didnt win the presidency.

[Rikko]

Yeah, they hate us for our freedom.

[Bob_McKenzie]

How naive are you?
Or are you just so blinded by zealous ideology and hate for your neighbors that you refuse to acknowledge the obvious fact that if we pulled out now, the whole of Iraq would be a quivering pool of congealing blood? Iraq doesn't have enough police or military trained, yet, to maintain its own order. Without US and other forces maintaining peace, the police and military, and indeed the fledgling government would collapse.

Then what happens? The strongest dictator would take over and we'd be right back where we started from, but minus thousands of dead and billions in costs. And then you, who now demand us leave immediately, would decry the very abandonment of the iraqi people you now espouse. You would accuse us of causing the nightmare your own plan for our early departure would make inevitable. The hypocrisy you put forth in guise of a plan makes my stomach turn.

Should we have gone into Iraq? We can argue that for eternity. But right or wrong, we are there now and we cannot in good faith or conscience leave before the job of rebuilding is done. That would make us hypocrites and untrue to our word to see the work finished.

Sorry, we can't chickenshit out of this one... if in the future we decide to be chickenshits or hypocrits, I assure you we will come north seeking your expertise.

[Levitacus]

oh shit, not another political debate... ill just say it may have been easier to just become 'occupiers' instead of 'liberators'.

[Lithrien]

bob is such a patriot!

[Rikko]

Shit, I hate to agree with Bob, but it was bound to happen.
Like the invasion or not, and believe the official reasons for it or not, pulling troops out now would be a death sentence. You think the invasion was morally wrong? Withdrawing at this point would be far worse.

[Edit: Rereading Bob's post, I had a great chuckle at the venom throughout. When I feel my penis is too small, I just drink.]

[Doula Doom]

I dont hate the US at all, I'm actually quite fond of your eBay and such... but I dont see how you can consider the USA 'occupying' Iraq. I dont want to detract from the good things that you as a country have done for them; after all, the only way they could gather like that before the 'war on terror' was to praise Saddam. There's no good reason for an armed force to remain in Iraq. Let the free Iraqi people watch "their" (notice the quotes) leaders dispose Saddam under their own power and struggle with their people just like every other nation in the world.

Unless there is another reasOn for remaining in Iraq, which couldn't possibLy be the case.


Then what happens? The strongest dictator would take over and we'd be right back where we started from, but minus thousands of dead and billions in costs.

I think thats an assumption, and a rather presumptuous one at that. You're not satisfied with who they elected? Tough!

It doesnt matter, i predect that soon the fire season (that used to be called Summer) starts and all the reservists are rushed home to help put out fires... or you'll look north for help and we will continue to support you. because that is what neighbors do.

[Bullrush]

i like the green telatuby

[Bob_McKenzie]

You're not satisfied with who they elected? Tough!

Actually, I don't care who they elect... as long as it is an election, not a takeover. I don't see it as presumptuous at all to think there would be a damn good chance that a country surrounded on all sides (aside from the 10 foot border with turkey) by dictatorships and until recently itself a dictatorship for the better part of the 20th century might fall back to familiar habits if the democratic government isn't "propped up." Is it our place or right to prop up goverments normally? No, but we've got a lot invested in this one.

[Levitacus]

...but we've got a lot invested in this one.

So true. Ive flipped on this a bit. I was against us going but now that we are there, fuck it. Control the oil, set up a puppet government that we basically control, pay back the saudis and chinamen with our new found fruit and move on.

[Rikko]

Ahh great, loyalty through attrition.